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Modeeb  4 stars
Title: A Ghost In The Machine
Posts: 1,258
Registered: 2002-4-19 10:48:36
Andrew is formed from matter, energy and consciousness.
As matter does not disappear with his death, but only changes form
and
As energy does not disappear with his death, but only modifies the mode of its activity.
Andrew's consciousness, also, cannot simply disappear, but must merely change its form and mode (plane) of activity.
Therefore, Andrew is immortal

This is inductive reasoning argued through analogy.

Weigh in with your opinion.

 

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Coriolus  3 stars
Title: Outpost Ice Mexican
Posts: 905
Registered: 2002-5-17 06:20:48
I totally agree. Out bodies are simple tools for our conscious spirits to engage in experiences on our path toward spiritual enlightenment. This may take many lifetimes to attain. We are not primarily humans and then spiritual beings, we ARE spiritual beings occupying human form. We are eternal.

 

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Tych2  4 stars
Title: Obama Appointed Outpost Czar
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Registered: 2005-3-1 06:56:47
I don't believe in magic.

 

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Modeeb  4 stars
Title: A Ghost In The Machine
Posts: 1,258
Registered: 2002-4-19 10:48:36
There is a mysterious relationship from consciousness, matter and energy to Consciousness. Ancient wisdom states: The same above (Consciousness) as below matter energy and consciousness. This is why, I say things like, Catherine of Sienna's: "It's heaven all the way to heaven." We have everything we need right now to experience whatever it is enlightenment is. I have struggled my whole life, believing enlightenment is the plum. I know in my deepest heart this is an error. There is no such thing as enlightenment. There is only, what Is and I just don't get it. The good news is i dont need to get it. I can just be. If i am going to just be, I'm going to make the best with what I have.

Science uses inductive reasoning, Tyche. Inductive reasoning coupled with analogy is Magic.

 

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Allstarslacker  3 stars
Posts: 757
Registered: 2006-5-23 20:09:28
I don't think there is anything to attain or accomplish.

Existence is. There is nothing we are to do, and there is nothing we are not to do.
Modeeb  4 stars
Title: A Ghost In The Machine
Posts: 1,258
Registered: 2002-4-19 10:48:36
I'm in complete agreement with you Allstar.

 

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Coriolus  3 stars
Title: Outpost Ice Mexican
Posts: 905
Registered: 2002-5-17 06:20:48
Modeeb posted:

There is a mysterious relationship from consciousness, matter and energy to Consciousness. Ancient wisdom states: The same above (Consciousness) as below matter energy and consciousness. This is why, I say things like, Catherine of Sienna's: "It's heaven all the way to heaven." We have everything we need right now to experience whatever it is enlightenment is. I have struggled my whole life, believing enlightenment is the plum. I know in my deepest heart this is an error. There is no such thing as enlightenment. There is only, what Is and I just don't get it. The good news is i dont need to get it. I can just be. If i am going to just be, I'm going to make the best with what I have.



This is a profound statement from someone who is learning to let go which is a major pathway to enlightenment. Enlightenment is only a simple way to describe something we struggle to articulate, like trying to explain love.

 

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Corky_Aloof  2 stars
Posts: 445
Registered: 2004-6-2 07:33:41
Allstarslacker posted:

I don't think there is anything to attain or accomplish.

Existence is. There is nothing we are to do, and there is nothing we are not to do.



Modeeb posted:

I'm in complete agreement with you Allstar.



WTF...I say WTF?

 

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Modeeb  4 stars
Title: A Ghost In The Machine
Posts: 1,258
Registered: 2002-4-19 10:48:36
Wtf is perfect! You can have just as much saying wtf as you can saying aha!
Defending Your Life Big Brain

 

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__Bonk__  5 stars
Posts: 5,122
Registered: 2009-7-25 03:04:52
Everything dies. Enjoy your time on this planet while it lasts

 

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