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Tipztoe
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Registered: 2004-3-1 17:53:43
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Yukishiro1 posted:
We would be better off if no one had guns (in terms of public safety, not getting into military or hunting use). I don't buy into the crap from the pro-gun lobby that guns are actually good for public safety.
as long as any type of gun exists anywhere as well as the black market, criminals will always have access.
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Yukishiro1
Posts: 3,243
Registered: 2002-9-20 23:52:57
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Tipztoe posted:
Yukishiro1 posted:
We would be better off if no one had guns (in terms of public safety, not getting into military or hunting use). I don't buy into the crap from the pro-gun lobby that guns are actually good for public safety.
as long as any type of gun exists anywhere as well as the black market, criminals will always have access.
Yes and no. Getting a gun in Japan is really hard. Pretty much only organized crime has them, and even then only basic handguns.
But yes, in America it's unrealistic to think gun control is really going to work.
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DemonicXH
Title: Camelot Vault Staff
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Registered: 2003-12-1 08:14:17
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There was a program started awhile back when Florida began allowing CCW permits. They wanted to find out the statistics of people with CCW permits committing murder as well as incidents of road rage shootings.
They ended up stopping the program after a few years because they had no cases to study. There were no incidents of people with CCW permits committing murder or any road rage shootings.
I been trying to find the link to it but I have been unsuccessful.
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Tipztoe
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DemonicXH posted:
There was a program started awhile back when Florida began allowing CCW permits. They wanted to find out the statistics of people with CCW permits committing murder as well as incidents of road rage shootings.
They ended up stopping the program after a few years because they had no cases to study. There were no incidents of people with CCW permits committing murder or any road rage shootings.
I been trying to find the link to it but I have been unsuccessful.
in most cases there's probably less incidents of road rage.. because reacting to the idiot that cut you off or what ever isn't worth losing your ccw license over, so you let it go.
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theredkay1
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Registered: 2008-5-16 10:37:09
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Moe_Nox posted:
"In counties that allow concealed weapons violent crime dropped an average of 3% per year after concealed weapons were allowed"
clicky
Violent crime has fallen by over 5% a year in the US in both 2009 and 2010.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/24/us/24crime.html
5%>3%
Do the math and this might not go the way you wanted it to go.
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Moe_Nox
Title: In Moe We Trust
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Registered: 2007-2-4 12:17:56
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"economics researcher John Lott's analysis of crime report data claims a statistically significant effect of concealed carry laws on crime, with more permissive concealed carry laws correlated with a decrease in overall crime. Lott studied FBI crime statistics from 1977 to 1993 and found that the passage of concealed carry laws resulted in a murder rate reduction of 8.5%, rape rate reduction of 5%, and aggravated assault reduction of 7%."
Better armed citizens have pushed back crime
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theredkay1
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Registered: 2008-5-16 10:37:09
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paper posted:
"crime tended to drop more in the nonadopting (concealed carry) states in
the 1990s than in adopting states"
"This puzzle was resolved when John Lott gave us the data that were
used for the response to our paper (recall that Lott was initially the lead author
of that response). We found that this dataset contained numerous coding errors,
which we describe below. Correcting these errors, which contaminated every
regression that was run for their response to our paper, had a profound effect on
their estimates and restored the conclusion that concealed-carry laws were
associated with increases in crime (or no effect) for all crime categories.
http://islandia.law.yale.edu/ayers/Ayres_Donohue_comment.pdf
Keep trying!
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eodoll
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Registered: 2002-2-14 12:35:42
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Why concealed carry? Why not carry itnout in the open?
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